Comments on PreciousASL: Harsh Realities Of Deaf Students

As a Deaf educator, I see the exact same thing as ...

2008-06-11T17:43:00.000-07:00

As a Deaf educator, I see the exact same thing as you are stating and it is so true. Those students who performed the best on all subjects are the ones who are from Deaf families or ones who have been exposed to ASL since birth despite coming from hearing families.

Barb DiGiThanks for "lending" some validity to my ...

2008-06-10T09:06:00.000-07:00

Barb DiGi

Thanks for "lending" some validity to my post with your years of experience and research.

Rox,

Sorry. You're right. I failed to add that many CI and hearing aids student wearers can't even speak.

I agree, research isn't necessary to see these typ...

2008-06-10T07:10:00.000-07:00

I agree, research isn't necessary to see these types of students in schools. I also want to clarify... Not all who wear hearing aids can hear and/or speak (this wasn't quite clear in your post). I agree that SimCom sucks.
Anonymous 8:21
As sad as it is, it's pretty rare for some of us to see successful students in those kinds of situations.

When reading case scenarios of each type of Deaf c...

2008-06-10T07:00:00.000-07:00

When reading case scenarios of each type of Deaf children, I find myself nodding my head. Working in the Deaf Education field for more than 15 years and being involved in the Deaf community and research, I can verify that these descriptions are valid.

Please note that PreciousASL said "some" not all and it is true that not all achieve language development stages unfortunately. You can go to dbcusa.org or google to find more information on research yourself.

This is rubbish. Show us the citations, the data,...

2008-06-10T06:21:00.000-07:00

This is rubbish. Show us the citations, the data, the proof we can independently check. The only message I get out of this is you're an ASLmonger.

anonymous,these pictures are random pictures off t...

2008-06-09T20:47:00.000-07:00

anonymous,

these pictures are random pictures off the Google image search from various websites. I have no idea who they are and no names were given for those children. If the website posted their pictures on their sites, clearly parents gave permission for their pictures to be posted on internet and none of the parents released their names. I added them strictly for purpose of showing the versality of students seen at all kinds of schools for the deaf - their identities are not important.

Where in my post say I have research? I said we need to look to the research available to us. Those students I posted are simply typical students seen everywhere. No research needed.

Last anonymous

Yes - I've said "Key word here is not all kids born to deaf families perform better although they tend to have better ASL expression, some of them continue to struggle with written English."

You're right. I am just generalizing here...there are always exceptions.

Those pictures are random Goggled up images strictly for purpose of giving general idea of the individual "characteristic" group. No names were given for any of those children and their identities are not essential to my post.

Your main point, that early and accessible languag...

2008-06-09T20:21:00.000-07:00

Your main point, that early and accessible language exposure is the key, I totally agree with. That applies to children exposed to spoken English, ASL, and other signed or spoken languages.

But aren't you being a little one-sided here? How about posting photos and stories (with parent permission, of course) about children who are *successful* communicators in spoken English, ASL, or both; using amplification (CI or hearing aid)or no amplification; and/or various modes of communication (cue, Signed English, simcom, S.E.E.)? There are plenty of variations. Deaf kids are not all the same. The majority of deaf kids in school today, according to the Gallaudet Research Institute, have a moderate hearing loss.

It's not gospel that deaf children exposed to ASL early (or born to deaf parents) will be above average. Think of it this way: on the normal curve, 68% of them will be average.

anonymous, 7:45The three questions you asked seems...

2008-06-09T19:56:00.000-07:00

anonymous, 7:45

The three questions you asked seems that you are more interesting to put the lid on the truth.

Where is the research that supports your claims? ...

2008-06-09T19:45:00.000-07:00

Where is the research that supports your claims? Who are these children, and did you get permission to post their pictures on your blog?

This makes a lot of sense and every parents should...

2008-06-09T19:20:00.000-07:00

This makes a lot of sense and every parents should see this!

Thank you for posting this and there are many other people out there that knows this fact but you are one of the few that say it out... the real truth.

John